Students Clash in Osmania University Over 'Beef Fest'
A clash took place between two groups of students in Osmania University here over an event tonight, police said.

A group of students wanted to organise a 'Beef festival' in the university campus tonight, while another group opposed the event, they said.

"The festival was intended to make the point that upper caste diktats over food habits needed to be resisted, however another group of students opposed the idea on the ground that it is against Indian culture," a police official said.

As the rival group of students reached the spot to express their protest, a clash followed and the students indulged in stone-pelting and some vehicles were set on fire in the incident, police said.

Police lobbed teargas shells to disperse the students and bring the situation under control.
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38/D-1
Apr 20, 2012
12:07 AM

 E.V.R.NAIKER

<<For me, USA = KSA, both are highly undemocratic in every aspects>>

In USA, you are allowed to follow your religion, in KSA, a non Muslim can't be a citizen. Still I am going to give you a pass over this. 

In my opinion, anybody can showcase their habits in a democratic way in India as long as it doesn't violate the law of land.

Democracy is a Western concept and the present parliamentary democracy has its origins in enlightenment. There is a concept of General Will by Rousseau in his book Social Contact which is the base of democracy. The idea of General Will is that people surrender their individual freedom and  they acquire political liberty and civil rights within a system of laws based on the “general will” of the governed. It means that in democracy, people have laws that are acceptable to all the people of the country. It might take a complete book to make you understand that. 

<<Why did this thugs take law into their hand?>>

Last time I was left wondering when in Haldwani, people desecrated a holy book and a riot followed. You see, we are a mob that can't be controlled all the times. 

<<Why did they single out Dalits and attacked them when Star hotels organize Beef Fest on daily basis??>>

I am sorry, I have never been to a 5 star hotel. Though people can riot there as well if they want to. But that is certainly a valid point. 

yhwh, hellhole
37/D-116
Apr 19, 2012
08:14 PM

>> In my opinion, anybody can showcase their habits in a democratic way in India as long as it doesn't violate the law of land.

Yes. It might not always be a smart idea; e.g., a bunch of missionaries standing outside a mosque waiting to preach to the people coming outside after Friday prayers might be within the law, but shall be idiotic.

>> Why did this thugs take law into their hand?

Yes. This is the main issue here. Right to offend is a part of freedom of expression. ABVP had a right to protest peacefully, or complain to the authorities if they felt that any laws were broken. They had no business starting violence. They deserve to be charged and prosecuted.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
36/D-115
Apr 19, 2012
07:37 PM

Reply to YHWH HELLHOLE

>>You can be jailed for eating dog meat in USA and pork in Saudi Arabia. Every country has its ethics<< It is part of your first comment. For me, USA = KSA, both are highly undemocratic in every aspects. Only slaves have high opinion of their racist master.

In my opinion, anybody can showcase their habits in a democratic way in India as long as it doesn't violate the law of land. If someone doesn't like it, he should approach the law enforcement authority as a legitimate way in a democracy. Why did this thugs take law into their hand?? Why did they single out Dalits and attacked them when Star hotels organize Beef Fest on daily basis??

No matter majority or minority, it is highly absurd imposing your habit on me in a democracy.

E.V.R.Naiker, Chennai
35/D-132
Apr 18, 2012
11:22 PM

 Mr..NAIKER

Has Indian constitution banned beef? No, Indian constitution hasn't. But then, has American constituion banned dog meat? Again, it hasn't. I am strictly talking about democracies, for this reason KSA won't be appropriate example as it is a theocratic state which is obviously a totalitarian state in disguise with ultimate authority given to imagination of humans. 

Your other point is

It is utter childish argument that majority should abide by the ethics applicable to a small minority especially in a democracy.

The argument doesn't stand as I can vouch, even in absense of any emperical data that majority of Indians are not beef eaters. For Brahmins, meat eating is a taboo who are a small percentage. But the rest upper castes, middle castes and even lower castes, who eat meat generally don't eat beef. This means that beef eating is restricted to Dalits, Muslims and Christians. In these three, there would be vegetarians and non beef eaters which brings down the percentage to less than 30 percent with all the generosity. 

Now if majority ethics are to be followed by minorities, this means that in India, where non beef eaters are in majority who generally have no problem with pork, people should be allowed to eat pork in public offices, school/college canteens.  Will that be fine with you? 

yhwh, hellhole
34/D-123
Apr 18, 2012
10:23 PM

Reply to 32/D-105

I agree with you there are ethics in different parts of the world. If you eat dog and pork in USA and KSA respectively, you will be  imprisoned. Why??? Because their constitutions have made eating such animals taboo in those nations. Ethics in these countries are taken into account while their constitutions are developed. Has Indian constitution banned eating beef?

It is utter childish argument that majority should abide by the ethics applicable to a small minority especially in a democracy.

E.V.R.Naiker, Chennai
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