Post #33,

Superlike...

Thanks :-)

Allah will help him who moves in the way of Allah. ALLAH is Kind.

>>Cost of power generation is US$ 1 million per MW for big sized plants. i.e around 5.5Cr per MW.

Pankaj, it is not cost of power generation, it is capital cost of setting up a coal based power plant

#37

There is opposition to Koodankulam Power Plant because unfortunately the Indian NuclearEstablishment is not very transparent. Read this article by Dr. A Gopalakrishnan , former chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board of the Indian government. digital.dnaindia.com/epaperimages/mumbai/19122011/18main_edition-pg8-0.pdf 

#37

There is opposition to Koodankulam Power Plant because unfortunately the Indian NuclearEstablishment is not very transparent. Read this article by Dr. A Gopalakrishnan , former chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board of the Indian government. digital.dnaindia.com/epaperimages/mumbai/19122011/18main_edition-pg8-0.pdf 

Post#35,

And they stop the Nuclear Power plant (safety)....Come back in real world of Science...

TN bans a movie because it will cause Safety issues...

I would have expected Kamal Hassan's worshippers to come out in droves and DEMAND that the movie (cleared by censors) be shown!

As regards Non-Covemntional energy like Solar, it is particularly costly for Investors but it's VALUE is far better to users. eg. A daily wage labour does not have electric lines in their Basti. So they cannot use their time after daylight goes away...How they can use their night time productively?

http://blog.cleantechies.com/2012/07/05/cheap-solar-power-for-poor-people-in-india/

All Govt needs to have is will to do good.

Like it or not it looks like Modi has that will

Post #33,

Superlike...

 Pankaj,

Tamil Nadu does not have perennial rivers. but there are some hydro electric plants, No coal mines either. The coal belts are in the North. So if there were HVDC connecting to power plants in the north, it would be different. I was talking about transmission from north. About power generation, there are wind mills and the power that they produce is fed into the grid, but the owners have not been paid for a long time and those who have invested in it have run in loss, Because of this track record, investors are vary of venturing into Solar Power. 

Post#31,

I was speaking to an elec engr...

That enigineer must not be compenetnt enough. HVDC is only for CARRYING electricity as there are no losses due to Inductance on HVDC lines. It has nothing to do with  LACK of GENERATION. Cost of power generation is US$ 1 million per MW for big sized plants. i.e around 5.5Cr per MW. One house has a connected load of about 2kW (low mid-class) so 1MW = .....do your math

Let me not take you into nitty-gritty of electrical engg.....

To cut the crap...TN is not a rosy place. Most of Indians who work with me are from Mumbai and Chennai and I have first hand info from Competent from them...

Modi is a work of Good Admin and a lot of PR.

Gandhis (beacuse gandhis= Congress) are ONLY PR

>> Bhag Modi Bhag: Three eyewitness accounts from a protest in Delhi University

Read some of the crap posted by the resident jehadi. Was too repetitive and boring, and gave up after a while. Despite this, found a few interesting things in what I read

>> I would have clicked pictures had my phone not been rendered useless by the water cannon

Seems the police are particularly adept at rendering phones useless by water cannons. Thousands of protestors, thousands of phones, and not one video of lewd comments or merciless thrashing? Since when did our police become so good at concealing evidence of their crimes? I guess there is no hope for victims of encounter killings. When thousands of protestors are not able to produce evidence of open goondagardi of police against "peaceful protests", what are the chances of someone producing evidence of criminals bumped off in secrecy in the night.

>> And all this was happening right in front of the press who chose to ignore this facet in their coverage of the event.

Vinod, Saba, Saikat, Sengupta, and all the Outlook crowd that lives off Congress doles; SHAME ON YOU.

Protecting Shinde and central govt has become so important for you, that you are hiding the crass behavior and goondagardi of Delhi police against peaceful protestors, exercising their democratic rights? Once again, shame on you, and Tehelka, and Hindu, and every other publication, that claims to stand for secular, liberal, democratic values.

"Bhag Modi Bhag: Three eyewitness accounts from a protest in Delhi University"

kafila.org/2013/02/08/bhag-modi-bhag-run-modi-runeyewitness-accounts-from-the-protest-against-narendra-modi-at-delhi-university/

Your admiration for MK

YUCK!

I was talking to an electrical engineer in TN. He was attributing the power situation to lack of  HVDC lines from major thermal power plants in coal belt to TN and he attributed the reason for that to lack of foresight on part of politicians to press for that in the past. And laying such lines would take minimum 2 - 3 years according to him. 

 The JOBLESS, FEUDAL ELITE LEFTIST RABBLEROUSERS Who have protested against Modi in Delhi, have not protested or done anything about the 56 YEAR MISRULE OF CONGRESS that has made India one of the most backward, deprived places on planet earth.

UPA is in power last 9 years and guess what- India is more unequal and has more poverty than anytime. But the PAID LEFTIST GOONS have nothing to protest. Shows again that the JNU Humanities crowd of A.Roy wannabies are not representative of Indian aam admi but represent the feudal elite who talk secularism and social justice in 5 star ac seminar halls and use their connections to settle abroad only to return to India during winter and crib about the bloody sanghi and internet hindoos.

 R Saroja >> Even remote hamlets have such smooth roads, as a mumbaikar, I can only envy.(Though the power situation , though much improved is still bad) But no one is talking about administrative competence of Jayalalitha or Karunanidhi?

You are peddling falsities here thinking others here do not know about the state of TamilNadu.

* FYI, the power situation in TN is very very bad, crops are withering and we are seeing one of worst farming season in history. And the credit goes to the UPA government @ Delhi which has seen to it that TN does not get any assistance or any share of the planned and commissioned power projects across India.

* Roads in city of Chennai and in many of its suburbs are in shambles. And no one is complaining because the state is bankrupt thanks to mindless populism pursued in past

* Industries are slowly leaving the state due to the bad power situation.

* The one and only area where TN shines like Mount everest is in social sector and credit for same goes to past investments in education and healthcare by the 9 year rule of Kamarjar and the 10 year rule of MGR, and when that was made, Gujarat was ruled by the dynasty feudals who pushed the state to darkness.

So maybe you must be very careful making statements. Your admiration for MK or your dislike of Modi is understandable, you have every democratic right to do that. But do not present a false picture about TN.

By the way, would it not be senisible of the protestors to attend Modi's speech and then ASK QUESTIONS at the end of it? I am sure Modi would not have avoided them.

I agree that we need to inculcate in ourselves the norms of protesting democratically and non violently. But was there a Question Answer session? Also news reports say that muslim students of SRCC were barred from attending Modi speech. Modi enjoying questions! www.youtube.com/watch

.....than the professionally qualified people who bring logic to their arguments?

Like this?  >>Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?<< 

Alas! Reason has ever been a willing hand maiden of faith. Support your reasons with facts. 

I support Modi Just because he is a good administrator. Not because he is a Hindutva Icon.

All over India, there is progress whenever there is peace. I have always held that progress is there inspite of politicians and not because of them. Does Nitish have a PR firm working for him? Now is it because of Modi we have Amul and Narmada Dam? I have just returned from TN after a long visit. Even remote hamlets have such smooth roads, as a mumbaikar, I can only envy.(Though the power situation , though much improved is still bad) But no one is talking about administrative competence of Jayalalitha or Karunanidhi? About muslims, even in Mumbai, the muslims have moved on despite no justice in 1992/3 riot cases. To give credit for that to any of the colourless CMs would be laughable. Go to muslim dominated localities in Mumbai and see the development/redevelopment in these areas as also in other places. Which CM dare take credit for that?

The case against Modi is over his handling 2002 riots. But he is not the only guilty party. People seem to have forgotten VHP and its capacity to raise an army of goons at the drop of a hat. Interesting times are here with VHP again trying to come to centrestage. 

Ms. Saroja,

I'm sorry if you find my comment insulting.

Give a thought to why the keyboard banging Internet Hindus are so supportive of Modi and not of Rahul. Do you think that a handful of useless morons posing as journalists writing on obscure websites or the Paid mediamen of English press have more undertstanding than the professionally qualified people who bring logic to their arguments?

I support Modi Just because he is a good administrator. Not because he is a Hindutva Icon.

By the way, would it not be senisible of the protestors to attend Modi's speech and then ASK QUESTIONS at the end of it? I am sure Modi would not have avoided them.

Post #15,

You did believe in that kind of a SENSIBLE report. If not, why quote it?

If this is the popularity of MODI Babu among youths in the country.. the BJP should give up all hopes of projecting him as PM in 2014 polls.

The Minority Muslims and now the youths...this formidible force will dash all hopes of MODI as PM !!

>>The protesters managed to cross the first barricade but were stopped at the second one just before Gate number 3 of the college from where Modi's cavalcade entered.

Frigging fascists want to protest they better do it peacefully. Break the barricade and don't expect royal treatment similar to Mumbai Police in Azad Maidan.

>>If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

When did ABVP goons protest against Sonia or Rahul just for getting invited for a speech in a college?

"What is the point of linking multiple media links of dubious credibility?"

Linking multiple media links of dubious credibility is a sign of jitteryness.

>> However another jittery coverage -- www.hardnewsmedia.com/2013/02/5802

Out of curiosity. What is the point of linking multiple media links of dubious credibility?

Wouldn't it be fair to have some video footage to backup these claims of police excesses and disgusting behavior? After all, the media was present in huge strength, not to talk of people taking videos with their phones.

There should be at least some evidence of Nazi police brutalizing innocent, peaceful protestors, molesting girls, passing lewd comments, working hand in hand with ABVP, threatening to "Ghusa doonga" etc. Or in this day and age, are we to rely on unsubstantiated allegations, with no efforts made to present the other side of the story?

Or are some people busy photoshopping , hoping to provide "visual evidence" in a couple of days?

After that, maybe we can talk about fixing responsibility for these excesses.

 >>In fact if I am not messing up the dates, my first comment on Outlook was also on condemning personal abuse.

Sorry if I have misrepresented your position, but I do appreciate your always being polite.

15/D-58
... Well, now only Santosh Gairola and Jaykumar remain. But even they have never taken on the filthy language of their comrades in arms.
R. Saroja
Bombay, India

I am not sure if I am the comrade in arms, but I condemn personal abuse. Mainly towards the fairer sex, even if that makes me misogynist.
In fact if I am not messing up the dates, my first comment on Outlook was also on condemning personal abuse. When Saba Naqvi wrote a blog about her being called a Muslim whore, a bitch and what not. I read that comment too and it was in very bad taste.

Today's TOI even tried to hint that Modi’s speech was appreciated because SRCC crowd is mostly commerce and economics students. Had it been a humanities crowd, story would've been different.

>>From the description of the protest it looks like the hired leftist goons were using girls as a shield to protest.

Whosoever heard of girls protesting ? They just let themselves be used as shields!

However another jittery coverage --  www.hardnewsmedia.com/2013/02/5802

" .. protest against the invitation of and talk by Narendra Modi by SRCC Students Union, "

I learn that Modi was invited on the request of 'overwhelming majority' of SRCC.

From the description of the protest it looks like the hired leftist goons were using girls as a shield to protest.

>> Post#6,
Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?

How smart of you to address this question to me. I was counting on you as one of the pro Modi people not to descend to personal abuses. Well, now only Santosh Gairola and Jaykumar remain. But even they have never taken on the filthy language of their comrades in arms.

Post #11,

Majority of Students were Hindus. So Shinde is right about Hindu terrorists....

Wink,Wink..

Post#6,

Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?

>> If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

True.

Sickos would have welcomed it, and said that they had it coming.

>> Delhi Police comes under Union Home ministry.

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

>> So it is Shinde who is in the dock

He's too busy investigating Hindu terrorism, and for this reason, he's too important for the sickos to put in the dock. They shall restrict their complaints to Delhi police, and shall somehow try to blame ABVP and Modi for it.

If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

>>If true, shouldn't Delhi police, Delhi home minister/Shinde and Sheila Dixit be in the dock?

Delhi Police comes under Union Home ministry. So it is Shinde who is in the dock 

 Please share -- www.facebook.com/Kamayanibalimahabal/posts/395484053881260

>> kractivist.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/girls-harrassed-by-maurice-nagar-police-at-anti-modi-protests-in-du-vaw/

If true, shouldn't Delhi police, Delhi home minister/Shinde and Sheila Dixit be in the dock?

Is it Modi's fault if Delhi police were lewd and communal?

 On 6th of February, there was a large protest against the invitation of and talk by Narendra Modi by SRCC Students Union, organised by various students groups and individuals. The road in front of SRCC had 3 rows of barricades on each side, some of which were subsequently broken. The Delhi police was extremely vicious in their handling of the situation, and were both highly sexist and communal. They passed lewd comments about women standing near the barricade, made kissing gestures and noises, asked women to come closer and talk to them. They also very openly stared and laughed at women in a way that was clearly sexual. When a woman student demanded that women police officers be present at the barricade as well to confront women students, she was told ‘aap aurat kahaan se hain’. Women were also told repeatedly to give up as they’re too weak to break barricades. Some women were told that they should stop protesting or they would be meted the same treatment as women in Gujarat in 2002. At the police station, women students were groped and felt up by the police when they tried to enter.

In addition to this the police also detained 8 protestors. ABVP students were allowed on the other side of the barricade, one even climbed the water cannon, but none of them were detained. This was despite them threatening students, particularly women, by saying things like “jo gujrat ke aurton ka haal kiya wohi tera hoga”. The police, after lathi charging students, laughing and joking as they did so, went on to drag students and throw them in the middle of ABVP and RSS activists, where they were further beaten up.

They were attacked by both ABVP goons and the police, who were supporting each other. The police were particularly obnoxious, whistling and winking at the female students (who were also groped at the Thana) and beating them (and the boys) up sadistically with lathis in addition to water cannons. The ABVP threatened them with Gujarat-like consequences – “Jo Gujarat mein huya vaise tujh me ghusa doonga” while brandishing a stick and similar things. Meanwhile the police were watching and laughing at the girls and other protestors and saying things like “kar le jo karna hai, kya lar payegi” and openly supporting the ABVP students, who were even dancing on the water cannons as they aimed at the protestors. The worst is that they would pick up some of the protestors (including young women) and push them into a crowd of ABVP goons who would then beat them. Some protestors were picked up and taken to the police station, and beaten up on the way (including on the head and groin with lathis). NONE of this shocking stuff is coming out in any of the news reports.

kractivist.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/girls-harrassed-by-maurice-nagar-police-at-anti-modi-protests-in-du-vaw/

Its a typical congres ploy to protest against Modi through back channels.NDTV said there were some eighty people protesting against Modi while CNN IBN says there were 1000 protesters .wonder how much OUTLOOK has to report later if not now.

More importance is given by the media to the protest instead of the main event where Modi spoke which was heard by  nearly 1800 students.

It only shows how the media is so partisan and biased against Modi.

Outlook India:
Students Protest Outside SRCC Against Modi's Visit

So, is that all what you got from that thunder at SRCC?
:)

protest was a dismal fizzle.

Modi delivered the best speech in recent times. way to inspire young mind.

I am sure more and more people around India will be inviting him soon.

 Read what Modi said .

" 16:29 Gujarat a success despite registan and Pakistan: The Gujarat model is based on good governance and by being pro-people, says Modi. "We must use our resources to the full potential. We need to seize the opportuntiy to take charge. Gujarat has achieved this despite adversities: "Hamara to halaat yehi hai ki ak taraf registan (desert), dusri tarf Pakistan," he says.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16:24 Modi: Nation awaits good governance (nudge nudge): "Gujarat was at the forefront of India's freedom struggle and now it is being lauded for its development plan and good governance," says Modi. "The nation awaits good governance. The same laws, the same rules and regulations, the same Constitution, yet Gujarat has moved forward. I want to use Gujarat as an example of how it is possible to progress with the same parameters."

Modi uses the half-empty, half-full glass of water as an analogy to explain that he is hopeful for India's future. "For me the glass is not half full, it full. Half with water, half with air," he says. The audience buys his sales pitch with a huge round of applause.

"The population of China is old, the population of Europe is old, India on the other is a young nation, but sadly we have not been able to channelise this resource," he says addressing an audience of students. "

He says Gujarat is the only state to have a forensic science university. The number of universities in Gujarat has increased from 11 in 2002 to 42 at present, says Modi. Music to students' ears, obviously "

news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/feb/06/liveupdates.htm

"17:08 Olympian Rajyavardhan Rathore tweets: SRCC very impressive talk by Modi, specific, to the point, govt has no business to so business, audience loving his talk.refreshing change ''

To win a steeple chase you are bound to face hurdles.

>> kractivist.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/girls-harrassed-by-maurice-nagar-police-at-anti-modi-protests-in-du-vaw/

If true, shouldn't Delhi police, Delhi home minister/Shinde and Sheila Dixit be in the dock?

Is it Modi's fault if Delhi police were lewd and communal?

protest was a dismal fizzle.

Modi delivered the best speech in recent times. way to inspire young mind.

I am sure more and more people around India will be inviting him soon.

>> Bhag Modi Bhag: Three eyewitness accounts from a protest in Delhi University

Read some of the crap posted by the resident jehadi. Was too repetitive and boring, and gave up after a while. Despite this, found a few interesting things in what I read

>> I would have clicked pictures had my phone not been rendered useless by the water cannon

Seems the police are particularly adept at rendering phones useless by water cannons. Thousands of protestors, thousands of phones, and not one video of lewd comments or merciless thrashing? Since when did our police become so good at concealing evidence of their crimes? I guess there is no hope for victims of encounter killings. When thousands of protestors are not able to produce evidence of open goondagardi of police against "peaceful protests", what are the chances of someone producing evidence of criminals bumped off in secrecy in the night.

>> And all this was happening right in front of the press who chose to ignore this facet in their coverage of the event.

Vinod, Saba, Saikat, Sengupta, and all the Outlook crowd that lives off Congress doles; SHAME ON YOU.

Protecting Shinde and central govt has become so important for you, that you are hiding the crass behavior and goondagardi of Delhi police against peaceful protestors, exercising their democratic rights? Once again, shame on you, and Tehelka, and Hindu, and every other publication, that claims to stand for secular, liberal, democratic values.

 Read what Modi said .

" 16:29 Gujarat a success despite registan and Pakistan: The Gujarat model is based on good governance and by being pro-people, says Modi. "We must use our resources to the full potential. We need to seize the opportuntiy to take charge. Gujarat has achieved this despite adversities: "Hamara to halaat yehi hai ki ak taraf registan (desert), dusri tarf Pakistan," he says.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16:24 Modi: Nation awaits good governance (nudge nudge): "Gujarat was at the forefront of India's freedom struggle and now it is being lauded for its development plan and good governance," says Modi. "The nation awaits good governance. The same laws, the same rules and regulations, the same Constitution, yet Gujarat has moved forward. I want to use Gujarat as an example of how it is possible to progress with the same parameters."

Modi uses the half-empty, half-full glass of water as an analogy to explain that he is hopeful for India's future. "For me the glass is not half full, it full. Half with water, half with air," he says. The audience buys his sales pitch with a huge round of applause.

"The population of China is old, the population of Europe is old, India on the other is a young nation, but sadly we have not been able to channelise this resource," he says addressing an audience of students. "

He says Gujarat is the only state to have a forensic science university. The number of universities in Gujarat has increased from 11 in 2002 to 42 at present, says Modi. Music to students' ears, obviously "

news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/feb/06/liveupdates.htm

"17:08 Olympian Rajyavardhan Rathore tweets: SRCC very impressive talk by Modi, specific, to the point, govt has no business to so business, audience loving his talk.refreshing change ''

" .. protest against the invitation of and talk by Narendra Modi by SRCC Students Union, "

I learn that Modi was invited on the request of 'overwhelming majority' of SRCC.

From the description of the protest it looks like the hired leftist goons were using girls as a shield to protest.

>> If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

True.

Sickos would have welcomed it, and said that they had it coming.

Its a typical congres ploy to protest against Modi through back channels.NDTV said there were some eighty people protesting against Modi while CNN IBN says there were 1000 protesters .wonder how much OUTLOOK has to report later if not now.

More importance is given by the media to the protest instead of the main event where Modi spoke which was heard by  nearly 1800 students.

It only shows how the media is so partisan and biased against Modi.

>>If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

When did ABVP goons protest against Sonia or Rahul just for getting invited for a speech in a college?

>> Delhi Police comes under Union Home ministry.

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

>> So it is Shinde who is in the dock

He's too busy investigating Hindu terrorism, and for this reason, he's too important for the sickos to put in the dock. They shall restrict their complaints to Delhi police, and shall somehow try to blame ABVP and Modi for it.

To win a steeple chase you are bound to face hurdles.

 R Saroja >> Even remote hamlets have such smooth roads, as a mumbaikar, I can only envy.(Though the power situation , though much improved is still bad) But no one is talking about administrative competence of Jayalalitha or Karunanidhi?

You are peddling falsities here thinking others here do not know about the state of TamilNadu.

* FYI, the power situation in TN is very very bad, crops are withering and we are seeing one of worst farming season in history. And the credit goes to the UPA government @ Delhi which has seen to it that TN does not get any assistance or any share of the planned and commissioned power projects across India.

* Roads in city of Chennai and in many of its suburbs are in shambles. And no one is complaining because the state is bankrupt thanks to mindless populism pursued in past

* Industries are slowly leaving the state due to the bad power situation.

* The one and only area where TN shines like Mount everest is in social sector and credit for same goes to past investments in education and healthcare by the 9 year rule of Kamarjar and the 10 year rule of MGR, and when that was made, Gujarat was ruled by the dynasty feudals who pushed the state to darkness.

So maybe you must be very careful making statements. Your admiration for MK or your dislike of Modi is understandable, you have every democratic right to do that. But do not present a false picture about TN.

>>The protesters managed to cross the first barricade but were stopped at the second one just before Gate number 3 of the college from where Modi's cavalcade entered.

Frigging fascists want to protest they better do it peacefully. Break the barricade and don't expect royal treatment similar to Mumbai Police in Azad Maidan.

"What is the point of linking multiple media links of dubious credibility?"

Linking multiple media links of dubious credibility is a sign of jitteryness.

Today's TOI even tried to hint that Modi’s speech was appreciated because SRCC crowd is mostly commerce and economics students. Had it been a humanities crowd, story would've been different.

Outlook India:
Students Protest Outside SRCC Against Modi's Visit

So, is that all what you got from that thunder at SRCC?
:)

 The JOBLESS, FEUDAL ELITE LEFTIST RABBLEROUSERS Who have protested against Modi in Delhi, have not protested or done anything about the 56 YEAR MISRULE OF CONGRESS that has made India one of the most backward, deprived places on planet earth.

UPA is in power last 9 years and guess what- India is more unequal and has more poverty than anytime. But the PAID LEFTIST GOONS have nothing to protest. Shows again that the JNU Humanities crowd of A.Roy wannabies are not representative of Indian aam admi but represent the feudal elite who talk secularism and social justice in 5 star ac seminar halls and use their connections to settle abroad only to return to India during winter and crib about the bloody sanghi and internet hindoos.

Post#6,

Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?

Post#31,

I was speaking to an elec engr...

That enigineer must not be compenetnt enough. HVDC is only for CARRYING electricity as there are no losses due to Inductance on HVDC lines. It has nothing to do with  LACK of GENERATION. Cost of power generation is US$ 1 million per MW for big sized plants. i.e around 5.5Cr per MW. One house has a connected load of about 2kW (low mid-class) so 1MW = .....do your math

Let me not take you into nitty-gritty of electrical engg.....

To cut the crap...TN is not a rosy place. Most of Indians who work with me are from Mumbai and Chennai and I have first hand info from Competent from them...

Modi is a work of Good Admin and a lot of PR.

Gandhis (beacuse gandhis= Congress) are ONLY PR

Ms. Saroja,

I'm sorry if you find my comment insulting.

Give a thought to why the keyboard banging Internet Hindus are so supportive of Modi and not of Rahul. Do you think that a handful of useless morons posing as journalists writing on obscure websites or the Paid mediamen of English press have more undertstanding than the professionally qualified people who bring logic to their arguments?

I support Modi Just because he is a good administrator. Not because he is a Hindutva Icon.

By the way, would it not be senisible of the protestors to attend Modi's speech and then ASK QUESTIONS at the end of it? I am sure Modi would not have avoided them.

>>Cost of power generation is US$ 1 million per MW for big sized plants. i.e around 5.5Cr per MW.

Pankaj, it is not cost of power generation, it is capital cost of setting up a coal based power plant

>>If true, shouldn't Delhi police, Delhi home minister/Shinde and Sheila Dixit be in the dock?

Delhi Police comes under Union Home ministry. So it is Shinde who is in the dock 

Post #33,

Superlike...

Thanks :-)

Post #33,

Superlike...

By the way, would it not be senisible of the protestors to attend Modi's speech and then ASK QUESTIONS at the end of it? I am sure Modi would not have avoided them.

I agree that we need to inculcate in ourselves the norms of protesting democratically and non violently. But was there a Question Answer session? Also news reports say that muslim students of SRCC were barred from attending Modi speech. Modi enjoying questions! www.youtube.com/watch

.....than the professionally qualified people who bring logic to their arguments?

Like this?  >>Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?<< 

Alas! Reason has ever been a willing hand maiden of faith. Support your reasons with facts. 

I support Modi Just because he is a good administrator. Not because he is a Hindutva Icon.

All over India, there is progress whenever there is peace. I have always held that progress is there inspite of politicians and not because of them. Does Nitish have a PR firm working for him? Now is it because of Modi we have Amul and Narmada Dam? I have just returned from TN after a long visit. Even remote hamlets have such smooth roads, as a mumbaikar, I can only envy.(Though the power situation , though much improved is still bad) But no one is talking about administrative competence of Jayalalitha or Karunanidhi? About muslims, even in Mumbai, the muslims have moved on despite no justice in 1992/3 riot cases. To give credit for that to any of the colourless CMs would be laughable. Go to muslim dominated localities in Mumbai and see the development/redevelopment in these areas as also in other places. Which CM dare take credit for that?

The case against Modi is over his handling 2002 riots. But he is not the only guilty party. People seem to have forgotten VHP and its capacity to raise an army of goons at the drop of a hat. Interesting times are here with VHP again trying to come to centrestage. 

Post #15,

You did believe in that kind of a SENSIBLE report. If not, why quote it?

>> However another jittery coverage -- www.hardnewsmedia.com/2013/02/5802

Out of curiosity. What is the point of linking multiple media links of dubious credibility?

Wouldn't it be fair to have some video footage to backup these claims of police excesses and disgusting behavior? After all, the media was present in huge strength, not to talk of people taking videos with their phones.

There should be at least some evidence of Nazi police brutalizing innocent, peaceful protestors, molesting girls, passing lewd comments, working hand in hand with ABVP, threatening to "Ghusa doonga" etc. Or in this day and age, are we to rely on unsubstantiated allegations, with no efforts made to present the other side of the story?

Or are some people busy photoshopping , hoping to provide "visual evidence" in a couple of days?

After that, maybe we can talk about fixing responsibility for these excesses.

Post #11,

Majority of Students were Hindus. So Shinde is right about Hindu terrorists....

Wink,Wink..

If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

 On 6th of February, there was a large protest against the invitation of and talk by Narendra Modi by SRCC Students Union, organised by various students groups and individuals. The road in front of SRCC had 3 rows of barricades on each side, some of which were subsequently broken. The Delhi police was extremely vicious in their handling of the situation, and were both highly sexist and communal. They passed lewd comments about women standing near the barricade, made kissing gestures and noises, asked women to come closer and talk to them. They also very openly stared and laughed at women in a way that was clearly sexual. When a woman student demanded that women police officers be present at the barricade as well to confront women students, she was told ‘aap aurat kahaan se hain’. Women were also told repeatedly to give up as they’re too weak to break barricades. Some women were told that they should stop protesting or they would be meted the same treatment as women in Gujarat in 2002. At the police station, women students were groped and felt up by the police when they tried to enter.

In addition to this the police also detained 8 protestors. ABVP students were allowed on the other side of the barricade, one even climbed the water cannon, but none of them were detained. This was despite them threatening students, particularly women, by saying things like “jo gujrat ke aurton ka haal kiya wohi tera hoga”. The police, after lathi charging students, laughing and joking as they did so, went on to drag students and throw them in the middle of ABVP and RSS activists, where they were further beaten up.

They were attacked by both ABVP goons and the police, who were supporting each other. The police were particularly obnoxious, whistling and winking at the female students (who were also groped at the Thana) and beating them (and the boys) up sadistically with lathis in addition to water cannons. The ABVP threatened them with Gujarat-like consequences – “Jo Gujarat mein huya vaise tujh me ghusa doonga” while brandishing a stick and similar things. Meanwhile the police were watching and laughing at the girls and other protestors and saying things like “kar le jo karna hai, kya lar payegi” and openly supporting the ABVP students, who were even dancing on the water cannons as they aimed at the protestors. The worst is that they would pick up some of the protestors (including young women) and push them into a crowd of ABVP goons who would then beat them. Some protestors were picked up and taken to the police station, and beaten up on the way (including on the head and groin with lathis). NONE of this shocking stuff is coming out in any of the news reports.

kractivist.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/girls-harrassed-by-maurice-nagar-police-at-anti-modi-protests-in-du-vaw/

If this is the popularity of MODI Babu among youths in the country.. the BJP should give up all hopes of projecting him as PM in 2014 polls.

The Minority Muslims and now the youths...this formidible force will dash all hopes of MODI as PM !!

 Please share -- www.facebook.com/Kamayanibalimahabal/posts/395484053881260

By the way, would it not be senisible of the protestors to attend Modi's speech and then ASK QUESTIONS at the end of it? I am sure Modi would not have avoided them.

I agree that we need to inculcate in ourselves the norms of protesting democratically and non violently. But was there a Question Answer session? Also news reports say that muslim students of SRCC were barred from attending Modi speech. Modi enjoying questions! www.youtube.com/watch

.....than the professionally qualified people who bring logic to their arguments?

Like this?  >>Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?<< 

Alas! Reason has ever been a willing hand maiden of faith. Support your reasons with facts. 

I support Modi Just because he is a good administrator. Not because he is a Hindutva Icon.

All over India, there is progress whenever there is peace. I have always held that progress is there inspite of politicians and not because of them. Does Nitish have a PR firm working for him? Now is it because of Modi we have Amul and Narmada Dam? I have just returned from TN after a long visit. Even remote hamlets have such smooth roads, as a mumbaikar, I can only envy.(Though the power situation , though much improved is still bad) But no one is talking about administrative competence of Jayalalitha or Karunanidhi? About muslims, even in Mumbai, the muslims have moved on despite no justice in 1992/3 riot cases. To give credit for that to any of the colourless CMs would be laughable. Go to muslim dominated localities in Mumbai and see the development/redevelopment in these areas as also in other places. Which CM dare take credit for that?

The case against Modi is over his handling 2002 riots. But he is not the only guilty party. People seem to have forgotten VHP and its capacity to raise an army of goons at the drop of a hat. Interesting times are here with VHP again trying to come to centrestage. 

>> Post#6,
Have you totally lost your *** sized brain?

How smart of you to address this question to me. I was counting on you as one of the pro Modi people not to descend to personal abuses. Well, now only Santosh Gairola and Jaykumar remain. But even they have never taken on the filthy language of their comrades in arms.

 Pankaj,

Tamil Nadu does not have perennial rivers. but there are some hydro electric plants, No coal mines either. The coal belts are in the North. So if there were HVDC connecting to power plants in the north, it would be different. I was talking about transmission from north. About power generation, there are wind mills and the power that they produce is fed into the grid, but the owners have not been paid for a long time and those who have invested in it have run in loss, Because of this track record, investors are vary of venturing into Solar Power. 

#37

There is opposition to Koodankulam Power Plant because unfortunately the Indian NuclearEstablishment is not very transparent. Read this article by Dr. A Gopalakrishnan , former chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board of the Indian government. digital.dnaindia.com/epaperimages/mumbai/19122011/18main_edition-pg8-0.pdf 

>>From the description of the protest it looks like the hired leftist goons were using girls as a shield to protest.

Whosoever heard of girls protesting ? They just let themselves be used as shields!

However another jittery coverage --  www.hardnewsmedia.com/2013/02/5802

Allah will help him who moves in the way of Allah. ALLAH is Kind.

>>Cost of power generation is US$ 1 million per MW for big sized plants. i.e around 5.5Cr per MW.

Pankaj, it is not cost of power generation, it is capital cost of setting up a coal based power plant

#37

There is opposition to Koodankulam Power Plant because unfortunately the Indian NuclearEstablishment is not very transparent. Read this article by Dr. A Gopalakrishnan , former chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board of the Indian government. digital.dnaindia.com/epaperimages/mumbai/19122011/18main_edition-pg8-0.pdf 

"Bhag Modi Bhag: Three eyewitness accounts from a protest in Delhi University"

kafila.org/2013/02/08/bhag-modi-bhag-run-modi-runeyewitness-accounts-from-the-protest-against-narendra-modi-at-delhi-university/

>> If water cannons and canes were used to disperse ABVP goons protesting against Sonia or Rahul, the comments in this forum would have taken a different hue!

True.

Sickos would have welcomed it, and said that they had it coming.

>> Delhi Police comes under Union Home ministry.

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

>> So it is Shinde who is in the dock

He's too busy investigating Hindu terrorism, and for this reason, he's too important for the sickos to put in the dock. They shall restrict their complaints to Delhi police, and shall somehow try to blame ABVP and Modi for it.

Its a typical congres ploy to protest against Modi through back channels.NDTV said there were some eighty people protesting against Modi while CNN IBN says there were 1000 protesters .wonder how much OUTLOOK has to report later if not now.

More importance is given by the media to the protest instead of the main event where Modi spoke which was heard by  nearly 1800 students.

It only shows how the media is so partisan and biased against Modi.

Outlook India:
Students Protest Outside SRCC Against Modi's Visit

So, is that all what you got from that thunder at SRCC?
:)

protest was a dismal fizzle.

Modi delivered the best speech in recent times. way to inspire young mind.

I am sure more and more people around India will be inviting him soon.

 Read what Modi said .

" 16:29 Gujarat a success despite registan and Pakistan: The Gujarat model is based on good governance and by being pro-people, says Modi. "We must use our resources to the full potential. We need to seize the opportuntiy to take charge. Gujarat has achieved this despite adversities: "Hamara to halaat yehi hai ki ak taraf registan (desert), dusri tarf Pakistan," he says.

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16:24 Modi: Nation awaits good governance (nudge nudge): "Gujarat was at the forefront of India's freedom struggle and now it is being lauded for its development plan and good governance," says Modi. "The nation awaits good governance. The same laws, the same rules and regulations, the same Constitution, yet Gujarat has moved forward. I want to use Gujarat as an example of how it is possible to progress with the same parameters."

Modi uses the half-empty, half-full glass of water as an analogy to explain that he is hopeful for India's future. "For me the glass is not half full, it full. Half with water, half with air," he says. The audience buys his sales pitch with a huge round of applause.

"The population of China is old, the population of Europe is old, India on the other is a young nation, but sadly we have not been able to channelise this resource," he says addressing an audience of students. "

He says Gujarat is the only state to have a forensic science university. The number of universities in Gujarat has increased from 11 in 2002 to 42 at present, says Modi. Music to students' ears, obviously "

news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/feb/06/liveupdates.htm

"17:08 Olympian Rajyavardhan Rathore tweets: SRCC very impressive talk by Modi, specific, to the point, govt has no business to so business, audience loving his talk.refreshing change ''

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