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1/D-65
Jan 17, 2012
05:29 PM

This is a state that wants to sit at the high table. It wants a veto. It claims to be a "risen" power. But an author visiting becomes a "law and order" problem which obviously we can't handle. Stupid - shear stupidity to even get into this at the state level. Make it clear to those who don't want him - he has the right to be here - if he is, protest all you want but don't cross the boundary of law.

But then this is probably not about what is said but more of what is unsaid. We are so used to being Banisthan.

Arun Maheshwari, Bangalore
2/D-67
Jan 17, 2012
06:45 PM

 Outlook India : Uncertainty Over Rushdie Visit: Gehlot Meets PC
PTI | New Delhi | Jan 17, 2012

The GOI must not allow itself to be pushed around by the fundamentalist forces among the Muslims, and Hindus and violate the Constitution of India.

Literature has been linked with the divisive politics of the Congress party to woo the gullible voters by making tall and irresponsible promises to them.Is GOI hell bent on surrendering to the fundamentalist,pushing the Right to Freedom of Speech enshrined in the Constitution of India, for chieving cheaping political mileage.

A K SAXENA  (A retired civil servant)


 

A K SAXENA, DELHI.INDIA
3/D-69
Jan 17, 2012
07:39 PM

This is a state that wants to sit at the high table. It wants a veto. It claims to be a "risen" power. But an author visiting becomes a "law and order" problem which obviously we can't handle. Stupid - sheer stupidity to even get into this at the state level. Make it clear to those who don't want him - he has the right to be here - if he is, protest all you want but don't cross the boundary of law.

But then this is probably not about what is said but more of what is unsaid. We are so used to being Banisthan.

Arun Maheshwari, Bangalore
4/D-70
Jan 17, 2012
07:43 PM

He is an Indian Origin Person .None can stop him from coming to India under any Law .So what is the fuss Gehlot and Muslim Maulvies are making ??

Rushdie's case is Batla House and Sachar Report like.Come Elections the Secus dust off these issues.

Another Vote Bank Trick of Secus ! He came in 2007 in India but since at that time there were no Elections hence no fuss.
So that is the change in circumstances now.
The Elections !He is an Indian Origin Person .None can stop him from coming to India under any Law .So what is the fuss Gehlot and Muslim Maulvies are making ??
Rushdie's case is Batla House and Sachar Report like.Come Elections the Secus dust off these issues.

He came in 2007 in India but since at that time there were no Elections and hence no fuss.So what is the change in circumstances now ? The Elections .

Another Vote Bank Trick of Secus !

a k ghai, mumbai
5/D-72
Jan 17, 2012
08:43 PM

The most disgusting thing in this incident is silence of hypocrites like Mahesh Bhat, Shabnam Ali and Javed Akhtar. These people came out supporting M F Hussain lecturing everyone about freedom of expression, but have no guts to support Rashdi. Bunch of sick cowards !!

Maha, NJ
6/D-74
Jan 17, 2012
09:18 PM

Ghai,

>> He is an Indian Origin Person .None can stop him from coming to India .....

I agree. Did you say that for M.F.Husain too?

Anwaar, Dallas
7/D-77
Jan 17, 2012
09:28 PM

"Did you say that for M.F.Husain too?"

Rushdie is not a fugitive.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
8/D-80
Jan 17, 2012
10:05 PM

Nice. I agree with the Govt. Judging by their latest antics, this seems a rather tepid act. Now, can the high officials ask the inimitable Zakir Naik to attend the literary fest instead and regale us with his comparitive study of religions. He is no less a speaker. I bet Rushdie will agree. Muslims complain about the lack of opportunities and discrimination. Well, they don't need to look far for the reasons. We don't even hear a squeak of protest from the renowned turrets who always claim to be a silent majority.

Amit, Tucson
9/D-81
Jan 17, 2012
10:23 PM

""Its a victory for democracy in India. Democracy is alive in India if the government listened to concerns voiced by so many people," he said."

Mullahcracy parading as democracy.  It's a victory for mullahcracy in India. Mullahcracy is alive in India if the government listened to concerns voiced by so many Islamic bigots.

nobody inparticular, Mumbai
10/D-82
Jan 17, 2012
10:37 PM

Who the hell Deobandis are to stop Salman Rushdie from visiting India. There can't be any Fatwa against Salman Rushdie as per Islam.

Deobandis don't consider Shia as Muslims. A fatwa is not applicable on non Muslims. So the fatwa against Salman Rushdie is not valid as per Islam. 

Koenraad Elst has something nice to say about The Satanic Verses controversy. koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/rushdie.html

jackass, lol
11/D-4
Jan 18, 2012
02:10 AM

We are not having a government at the center that  would honour the validity  of the OCI card it has issued to Salmon Rushdie with no hesitation on it's part to his desire to visit his motherland at anytime he chose.  Instead, what we are seeing to day is a government that is ready to bow to the pressure of the communal radicals and cede to them, it's own authority of issuing visas to the NRIs abroad for entry into india, all just for the purpose of not loosing the favour of their community votes in the elections that are around the corner. And to Rushdie, I would appeal not to come to this land now as the government at the center we have today would not give any guarantee for his safety because for them the muslim votes are more important than the integrity and validity of the OCI card he has and more than that, his life.

Samirajan, Portland
12/D-5
Jan 18, 2012
02:34 AM

"But, the sentiments of the people have to be kept in mind, Gehlot said in no uncertain terms."

Gehlot is no different than Thakre. Thakre uses strong language. Gehlot does it subtly.

Maha, NJ
13/D-7
Jan 18, 2012
02:53 AM

Now, Anwaar should tell us now if the Indian Muslim websites and intelligentia protested the attempts to ban Rushdie's entry to India. Or are they coward enough not say anything against their vociferous and militant brethren from the community?

DC, NEW YORK
14/D-16
Jan 18, 2012
08:02 AM

I only wonder what people ( intelligentsia ) would be saying, would it be NDA government at the center?

All focus seems to be on these fringe groups, while there is passing condemnation of politics of govt.

If I remember it, it is all NDA govt which was culprit of all ill those fringe groups ( like Sri Ram Sena ) were doping.

Santosh Gairola, Hsinchu
15/D-18
Jan 18, 2012
09:18 AM

DC,

>> "Anwaar should tell us now if the Indian Muslim websites and intelligentia protested the attempts to ban Rushdie's entry to India."

Less than half of them did. I am disappointed with the rest. I got beaten up bad, but I am used to it from my experience here!

Anwaar, Dallas
16/D-21
Jan 18, 2012
10:11 AM

>> All focus seems to be on these fringe groups, while there is passing condemnation of politics of govt.

It's an old trick perfected by the media whores.

When it comes to BJP, entire Hindutva parivar; be it the genuine components like RSS or its affiliates, separate entities like Shiv Sena, unrelated ones like MNS or Abhinav Bharat, or fringe groups likely owing allegiance to Congress like Ram Sene; all are brought under the same umbrella.

It makes it easy for intellectually lazy and conceited journos like Vinod Mehta and Saba to spew hate on BJP, while simultaneously serving the interests of their political masters.

The direct opposite is true for succus, where each entity; Deobandis, Sufis, IM, SIMI, churches, priests, Shahi Imam, all political parties are identified separately. So failure or criminality of each section is compartmentalized, and other groups are insulated from it.

So when Christian terrorists, supported by Congress gun down an 84 year old Swami and some of his followers, succus are not blamed. But when there is retaliation, of course BJP is blamed.

The dynasty has of course taken it to new levels, where all achievements are credited to it, and all failures to the minions.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
17/D-27
Jan 18, 2012
10:43 AM

ONCE AGAIN THE MASK OF THE IRRESPONSIBLE, BIASED NATURE OF INDIAN ENGLISH MEDIA IS EXPOSED. THE MEDIA HOUSES, WHICH DONT HESITATE TO TAKE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ACCUSE AND DEFAME INDIA'S PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION PARTY IS SO SILENT WHEN ESTEEMED SECULAR LEADER OF RAJASTAN , GEHLOT ASKS CENTRAL GOVT TO STOP RUSHDIE VISITING JAIPUR.

SHAME ON ENGLISH MSM, ONCE AGAIN YOU SHOWED THAT YOU ARE JUST PAID GOONDAS UNDER THE SERVICE OF ONE FAMILY.

Ramki, Delhi
18/D-29
Jan 18, 2012
10:47 AM

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENGLISH MSM(MAINSTREAM MEDIA) AND A RAPIST?

A RAPIST ALWAYS BLAMES HIS VICTIM, AND HER SENSE OF DRESSING FOR HIS CRIME.

A ENGLISH MSM ALWAYS BLAMES ITS CHOSEN TARGETS AND THEIR POLITICAL NON CONFORMANCE FOR THEIR CORRUPT ACTS.

PS -  99% of people may not be able to understand above, but people who really know the corrupt ways of english msm will be able to appreciate.

Ramki, Delhi
19/D-42
Jan 18, 2012
01:24 PM

Giving in to the demands of groups like the Darul Uloom or the VHP is harmful to both our democracy and our secularism. If these tactics work then these tactics will continue. Such fuddy-duddy organizations must be shown their place.

Anwaar, Dallas
20/D-46
Jan 18, 2012
02:17 PM

>>It's an old trick perfected by the media whores.

Oh, they have a bag full of old tricks. The second trick: unreasonable demands of rabid Muslim organizations will be ‘balanced’ by bringing in the VHP, RSS for BJP whether it is relevant to the issue at hand or not. The third trick employed by media whores is the similar to the one adopted by Barkha Dutt recently where she says if the controversy keeps Rushdie away from Jaipur, we Indians should be ashamed of ourselves with the culture of intolerance! Hence a rightful criticism of the mullahs is conveniently diffused over 'all Indians'! This trick is the most abused – following Mumbai terrorist attracts, instead of being critical of the Congress, debates were framed to show public outrage against the ‘larger political class’. Similarly, after UPA1 and 2 were caught with their pants down neck deep in corruption, we were told corruption is everywhere including the government clerk level – it is a systemic problem! We saw how hard these whores tried to balance UPA’s corruption with mining scam in Karnataka.
 

RSM, Delhi
21/D-58
Jan 18, 2012
04:47 PM

 "... We saw how hard these whores tried to balance UPA’s corruption with mining scam in Karnataka." - Post # 20 RSM

Hmmm..  where does BJP stand on this issue of Rushdie ?

I am afraid, BJPwallahs are clutching to the frocks of Mullahs (Deobandi and who else). Here is the news for all and sundry:

"... Even the Hindu right wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has hopped on to the anti-Rushdie bandwagon. Its minority cell has demanded that Rushdie be kept out of the country. " -

www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NA19Df02.html

It reminds me of the days when the Indian public elected BJP to the office in Delhi and the BJP maesttro Advani went ahead in planning the future of Kashmir with the jehadis Huryiat & Co in closed doors excluding the Pandits. The Pandits bitterly complained about that state of affairs to the BJP time and again but that was of no avail. Incidentally, Advani and Jaswant are preaching all over the world that Jinnah was a secular !

Regarding the corruption issue mentioned in the quote, one needs to be politically naive in the extreme to believe that BJP is less corrupt - if they are, then it is simply they lack the capability of being that corrupt although they are corrupt as much as they can be. 

Let me take one issue to make the point, that of Bofors. BJP held power for full ten (10) years. Before coming to office, all their leaders campaigned on Bofors scam by the Congress - they still raise it in the parliament whenever an opportunity arises on Bofors.

But why did not BJP open the files on Bofors and prosecute the crooks during those ten years - ample time? If they are elected back in office, will they pursue the Bofors case?  I am afraid not.  

The media is not "whore" in reporting or analyzing issues. If that characterisation is to be applied, the prime candidate for that is BJP and their coward Hindu followers.

Pinaki S Ray, Adelaide
22/D-67
Jan 18, 2012
06:58 PM

He is an Indian Origin Person .None can stop him from coming to India "Ghai

I agree. Did you say that for M.F.Husain too?" Faruki

None stopped MF to come to India .He never wanted to face the Courts .He could have come to India and gone to SC and prayed that let all the cases be clubbed together .
The cases would have dragged another 25 yrs without any decision .

MF have should not have relinquished his citizenship .But Quari offer was perhaps more lucrative .

Rushdie wants to come to India so how can Muslims or Govt stop him visiting his Country of Origin .
At the most Muslims can or even Govt can file 100s of cases against Rushdie.
Rushdie wants but MF avoided.

Incidentally I never supported Rushdie nor MF .Both created problems here.

But Govt's stand on Taslima and Rushdie is quite different than MF.Why ? If  it is not pandering to Vote Banks then what else its dear sir ?? 5 Sattes are on Elecction Mode .

Hoga wahi jo manjure Deoband hoga !

a k ghai, mumbai
23/D-73
Jan 18, 2012
08:42 PM

Ghai,

>> None stopped MF to come to India.

So you have the same attitude toward Rushdie and Husain?

Anwaar, Dallas
24/D-75
Jan 18, 2012
08:50 PM

Ye s Faruki sahib I neither support Rushdie's book nor Hussain naked  Paintings .Why hurt sentiments of the others ?

a k ghai
mumbai, India
25/D-83
Jan 18, 2012
09:54 PM

>> We saw how hard these whores tried to balance UPA’s corruption with mining scam in Karnataka.

Some of these also infest the blogosphere, handing out certificates as to whether purity, like pregnancy, follows the theory of relativity or not.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
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